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  1. Kashugaru

    Am I the only one who loves Mikadzuki's character and art and personality ? Just wondering

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  2. chibiroxy

    mean no harm. out of curios. lily is she or he? when inrl read it said "he" but see the picture its like "she" @.@ really confusing. can someone enlighten me please..

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    1. anon

      i sink that Lily is a HE, but he is in the same situation as Yun (miss identified by machine)

      or it's the author trying to create the cliche "cute-boy prince"

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      1. krytykkrytyk Post author

        Lyly wasn't misidentified by a machine. He doesn't have the boobs and instead properly has the other thing.

        To be precise, he's very young (like 12 to 14), younger than Yun and like kids often are, kind of androgynous.

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        1. Lucasnox

          And yet cloude still dressed lyly in a sailors outfit

          Traps shotas and incest oh my!

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    2. Zatrys

      First, he's a he, very cute, yes, but a he.
      Second, his name isn't "Lily" but "Lyly", difference being in the pronunciation.

      "Lyly" is pronounced like "Lie" as in "that's a lie", and then "Lee".

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  3. Owl

    It's just the evil joker in me but when I saw Emilio's "Underwear -", I couldn't stop smiling. :)

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    1. Blank

      lol, she's going commando on us huh?

      Anyways, from what I can tell, underwear is different from undergarments. Undergarments are what you're thinking of, while underwear is stuff you wear under stuff, like wearing a shirt under a jacket/sweater.

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      1. Sanngrior

        as long as she doesn't have 3-dimensional movement, no-one will know whether she is wearing them or not, it is entirely her choice to have such a hobby

        just... didn't expect it to be her of all people to be going commando O.O

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      2. Owl

        I know, their "underwear" is technically "innerwear" or "shirts".

        But I'm still laughing!

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  4. Galen Musbach

    Lyly has Magic Talent 10 but no elemental magic. What did he level it with?

    Emily has Sorcery, which means she leveled Magic Talent and Magic Power to 50, but also has no element sense. It appears as though her Connecting Sword is a Magical Talent required Weapon ....

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      1. Fnors

        I think crafting might use some magic power. I'm pretty sure Alchemy needs it and I would not be surprised if crafting/enhancing a magical staff required a lot of magic.
        Hum... Yep. I just took a quick look at volume 1, chapter 2. Using a recipe gave Yun a boost in [mixing] and [magic power]. So I guess that all crafting needs magic and that more magic is required to craft better items.

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        1. krytykkrytyk Post author

          All skills, spells and arts (which includes crafting skills) require magic power to use. Of course you can craft manually without using magic power too, but if you want to create batch of potions...

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          1. Galen Musbach

            My question is why Magic Talent leveled. Alchemy might be a Magic Talent, but Lyly doesn't have it.

          2. krytykkrytyk Post author

            Possibly levels up when mana consuming skills are cast or smth.

      1. HunterX57

        Mikadzuchi as a reference to looking like a man, if you can't picture it try watching Final Fantasy Advent Children (See Male Character: Reno in high def), or Rokka no Yuusha (Six Heroes or something...) for Male character: Adlet.

        Both have the image of a man with similarities to how Mikadzuchi's character design appears.

        To be honest, from the picture here I got the same male impression, although from the text-only novel viewpoint she certainly has plenty of feminine charm to her character.

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  5. Liedral

    Also... you listed Lyly's armor as garment but in the explaination you listed it as cloth wearing.

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    1. krytykkrytyk Post author

      Refresh a few times, I changed it ytd already. Probably caching problem. That was one of things I had problems with naming.

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  6. Liedral

    Oh... and another error I just noticed. On mikad's sense explanation you have Magical stick is stick senses further derivition it etc. etc.
    And then the next one is
    Magical stick is one od stick senses derivition. adds corrections etcetc.

    Thought it was strange and looked up raws. The second one is large stick and not magical stick.

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  7. Calvin

    Many thanks.
    After four volumes, I started comparing some of the builds.

    >Natural MP Recovery Increase
    >Magic Power Recovery
    What's the difference between these two?

    >Swift Legs
    >Swiftness
    What's the difference between these two?

    >Crafting Knowledge
    What does this do? I've been curious for a while.

    >Dosing
    Crafting Knowledge (in v2 ch3) was mentioned as having DEX correction. Dosing (in v2 ch4) was also mentioned as having some kind of correction. Is it also a DEX correction?

    Once again, thanks for translating.

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    1. krytykkrytyk Post author

      Swift Legs changed into swiftness:)) The difference is the name. I changed it @tobi-chan's data sheet... but possibly left it somewhere.

      MP Recovery vs natural recovery increase... no idea. I know they're separate. Probably the way they're used differs.

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      1. sierrebwarts

        Going off of actual MMO's...
        MP recovery is probably either channeled (sit there and go Ohmmm) or only works out of combat.
        Natural MP recovery would probably always be on/passive but for a lesser effect.

        Both of which are annoying to use and/or balance.
        /nerdoff

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        1. Calvin

          Did some more digging. Magic Power Recovery was mentioned as part of Miu's sense build in the text of volume 1, but it disappeared in her Sense Build Data.

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          1. krytykkrytyk Post author

            You're right, but it's not my mistake :). Just checked the source material. It is there in chapter 3, but it isn't there in sense build data.

        2. Zatrys

          Hmm, my guess would be, Natural MP Recovery Increase is the normal unassisted recovery over time, where as MP Recovery Increase is the recovery done by items or what not such at MP Pots.

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    2. Tygriss

      Based on what the other "knowledge" senses do, it probably adds a correction for manual crafting and an increased success rate and reduced MP cost to auto or menu crafting.

      Swordsmans grants increased correction and damage for sword arts. Mages grants reduced chant time and mp cost reduction. Warriors gives bonuses similar to swords but for all weapon types (probably at lower bonus since it is more multiputpose). Critical gives higher damage for hitting critical points. Preemptive gives higher surprise attack bonuses.

      There is probably a knowledge sense for each of the basic weapon types as well. Maybe other support type knowledges also.

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  8. Sonoda YukiSonoda Yuki

    Wasn't Swiftness written as Swift Legs for Toutobi's Sense Build? I'm pretty sure these are supposed to be the same sense, but correct me if I'm wrong. I also want to see a Yun with that sense too.

    My guess is that Earth Element Talent's derivation is either Magma Element Talent, or Wood Element Talent. While we're speculating here, Dark => Shadow or Night. Anyone have any ideas on Light Element's? Holy Element, maybe?

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      1. Zatrys

        Not if it's just my end, but Tobi-chan's Sense explanation on the sense build image has Swift Legs still, though the Sense list itself is fixed.

        As to Yuki-san's post, I agree with your guesses for all elements, though I myself also thought of Metal for Earth, and Void for Darkness.....What do you think?

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        1. Mage-kun

          A little late to answer, but i think darkness will be Curse Element, since it's basically a debuff magic. And agree with metal for earth.

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  9. Blank

    Hmm, that's odd, from the description I read about [Collector's Eye] I would think it was a deviation of [Discovery], where it focuses more on finding materials, while [See-Through[ is more for combat, finding things that hides.

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  10. Kabu

    Sorry, sir... errrmmm....it's only me who can't see the picture for emilio and mikadzuchi

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  11. Truth

    Heres to waiting for the next volume, seems like we'll have a lot to look forward to, also, i would totally play oso if it were a rel gae even without the vr part

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  12. Sonoda YukiSonoda Yuki

    I want to see a Yun with Alchemic Arts and Synthesis Arts, as well as Sorcery and whatever Earth Element Talent and Hawk Eyes' derivations are.

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        1. Zatrys

          It's a fantasy world/game, dressing like that is normal there, there is no such thing as Chuuni

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  13. Saqa

    I always wonder why has no one max out their accessory limit of 10, maybe its a pain for the author to put all 10 accessories for everyone. Also, im glad to see there are level 50 derivation so we might finally see the hawk eyes upgrade. I didn't expect Emilio to have the party sense either seeing that she would be a more solo player?

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    1. krytykkrytyk Post author

      Possibly both Party and Clan senses buff her created mobs, that's why she's using them.

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      1. Blank

        Speaking of Accessories, how come Emily has about 2-3 but it's listed as one?

        They are:
        1. Mast of Pain Receiving (1)
        2. Fake Tag (1)
        3. Distorted Voice

        Not sure if #3 counts, but the other two had a (1) on them, though I guess Fake Tag and Distorted Voice could be considered additions (Items that cause an effect) rather than equipment.

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  14. td

    I imagined Clouds to be more sruffy with a 5 o'clock shadow, more like Kaji from Eva, because he pulls all nighters. I pictured Mikadzuchi with short hair.

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    1. kirindas

      Not sure how I connected the image, but for Cloude I kept imagining one of the minor thief characters from MAR. More dark skinned, shorter, pudgy, with dark circular sunglasses. Totally off the mark after going back and reading the descriptions of him. XD

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  15. Master_tonberry

    This isn't a comment about the raws but emilio's sense data has connecting sword listed as equipped but junction sword below in the explanation. I'm guessing they're the same thing?

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    1. krytykkrytyk Post author

      Yup, I was playing around with the name and meaning to get the best one. Thanks for pointing out.

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      1. Master_tonberry

        I've got to admit I prefer junction sword purely for FFVIII reasons. (I'm biased and I know it)

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        1. krytykkrytyk Post author

          I might change it sometime, but for now I'll let it stay connecting. Normally I would call it Snake Sword, but in this case it doesn't have the whip or wire part on which the blades slide, they float and reconnect... the Japanese name nuance suggests it's "connecting" or "reconnecting" sword, a made of parts that connect.

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  16. Liedral

    Well.. several errors in the sense data.

    Lyly Errors: Garment is lvl 21, Axe is lvl 22, and Trap Disarm should be lvl 10.

    Emilio Error: Collector's Eyes are lvl 34

    Mikadzuchi Errors: Large Stick is lvl 47, and Anger Resistance, lvl 3

    On a side note, Cloude has CS no 1, Lyly CS no 2, Magi CS no 3, and Yun has CS no 6. Any idea who has CS no 4 and 5?

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    1. krytykkrytyk Post author

      Yup, like I said, I knew there will be mistakes... but couldn't bring myself to comparing them. Haa...

      Thanks, this helps.

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  17. krytykkrytyk Post author

    PS, if any of you got the raws, could you check over the sense levels to make sure I didn't make a mistake somewhere? Thanks. Too tired/lazy to do that.

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    1. StealthAria

      I don't blame you, you translated an entire volume in what, 2 weeks? Most other translators would have taken at least a month.

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